Dundee: the road home

Our plan was to leave Dundee after breakfast on Monday morning and stop at Bannockburn on the way home. We’d parked the car on Friday afternoon and, although we’d walked past it several times on our way in and out of the hotel, we hadn’t paid it close attention since. We were dismayed to discover that one of the front tyres was completely flat. John pumped it up, but we didn’t want to drive home without getting it checked out, so I Googled the nearest branch of Kwik Fit which turned out to be just beyond the University of Dundee’s campus.
The place was busy so we were sent off for a coffee until the mechanic could look at the car. Bad news came back: there was a small bolt embedded in the tyre which would therefore need to be replaced. A big marquee had been erected in part of the hotel car park for all their Christmas functions, so presumably we had driven over a discarded bolt when we arrived. The result was that we had an unscheduled hour for a final walk in Dundee. And what a lot of interesting history and culture we found!
First we passed this pretty little park, Seabraes, with a mini bandstand and three strange critters climbing a stone pillar. I had no idea what they were till I looked them up at home – they represent the video game Lemmings which was produced in a nearby studio in 1991 and was apparently a runaway hit. The bronze version was created by local artist Alyson Conway in 2013.
I visited Dundee with some friends one day last summer to walk part of the Women’s History Trail, and we came across a few of the plaques again. Miss Mary Ann Baxter (1801-1884) used her wealth to support missionary work abroad and good works in Dundee. At the age of 80 she founded University College, now the University of Dundee, to promote the education of both sexes. Frances (Fanny) Wright (1795-1852) was well ahead of her time. Daughter of an ardent republican, she went to the USA where she became famous as a writer and lecturer. Controversially, she scorned religion and campaigned for women’s rights, free love and the emancipation of slaves.
Mary Lily Walker (1863-1913) was born in the house below and was one of the first female entrants to University College. As a young woman she became conscious of the appalling living conditions of the poor and went on to transform Dundee with baby clinics, health visitors, school dinners, children’s convalescent holidays and more.
Something I didn’t know about was the Tree of Liberty. After the French Revolution, civil unrest spread across Scotland, often symbolised by the planting of a Tree of Liberty. The original Dundee tree was planted in 1792 but was chopped down in 1930 as part of a road-widening scheme. The current Tree of Liberty resides in a rather sad-looking corner of the university. The plaque beside it relates to the original tree and dates from 1912.
Finally, on the way to collect the car, I admired the extremely distressed looking George Orwell pub with its pseudo-Penguin Books signage.
So – back on the road! And back to our original plan of visiting Bannockburn, site of a famous battle in 1314 when King of Scots Robert the Bruce was victorious against the army of King Edward II of England. It’s years, maybe decades, since I’ve been there, certainly long before the current visitor centre was built. Sadly, this proved to be our second set back of the day.
First stop was what the website described as the ‘award winning’ café. We were latish for lunch because of the holdup with the car, but it was still only 1.30pm. Nevertheless, it was quicker to list what was left on the menu (not much) than what was not available, but we managed to find something to eat. I won’t be giving it any awards though.
Next stop the Visitor Experience. I have checked the website again before writing this and it is now made quite clear several times that entry is by pre-booked time-slots. The day we visited it merely stated ‘During our busy holiday periods, entry is by pre-booked time slots’ – I know that’s an exact quote because John put it in his (rather scathing) Trip Advisor review. We didn’t think a cold Monday in mid-November was a busy holiday period, so were dismayed to find we’d have over an hour to wait. We passed, and went to look at the outdoor site.
This has an impressive bronze statue of Robert the Bruce on horseback, and a rather less inspiring concrete rotunda. Both of these date from the 1960s and both have been restored relatively recently. They would be much more interesting if there were more information boards to tell you about the battle and how it related to the landscape in front of you. Still, we enjoyed a quick, cold walk round before heading for the car and then home for a warm-up.
Our Bannockburn experience was decidedly underwhelming, although I give the visitor centre one star for updating their website to make it much clearer what to expect. Perhaps they read John’s review – and several other similar ones. I’m glad we didn’t make it the main focus of our day: the unplanned walk in Dundee was much more interesting, so the flat tyre did us a favour, albeit an expensive one. Overall, Dundee was a great place for a long weekend and not somewhere I would have thought about a few years ago. I’m so glad we went.

One star. That is quite the ringing endorsement.
Jude
LikeLike
So well deserved …
LikeLike
Glad that the enforced change of plan meant you had longer to enjoy Dundee 🙂
LikeLiked by 1 person
I’m late here but It seems your car wanted you to check out the town some more. I love the first lady mentioned, Mary Ann Baxter-Love her controversial way of thinking. The other site…you’re right, they should have more information out there to read about.
LikeLike
Those women are all inspiring!
LikeLike
How a misfortune (the first one anyway) can turn out “fortunous”. I’m glad you managed to explore Dundee a bit more, albeit unexpectedly. Often, the places we expect most from turn out to be a bit of a disappointment. Our (travel) motto is: be flexible, open-minded, and don’t plan too much. 🙂
LikeLiked by 1 person
A very good motto!
LikeLiked by 1 person
Well said! Sometimes the unexpected change in plans turns out to be the most memorable. This story is a case in point!
LikeLike
Yes, we were very happy with our enforced change of plan (apart from shelling out for a new tyre).
LikeLiked by 1 person
Thank goodness for you, the car and your day that you got the tyre checked out before travelling on!
Thoroughly enjoyed your unexpected walk 🙂
LikeLike
Thanks Becky, so did we!
LikeLiked by 1 person
Sometimes the best surprises are found when you’re inconvenienced or in a fix of some sort. It sounds like the Dundee walk was very nice, but how infuriating about the Visitor Experience at Bannockburn. It’s so frustrating to be misinformed online; that’s the whole point of having an online presence – to keep people updated and properly informed! Sorry too about the menu being so limited and the food not good. At least it is possible to write scathing TripAdvisor reviews, and thus have the ability to have a say. Did Robert the Bruce also have some involvement in Spain? I seem to remember something about him….
LikeLike
After he died his heart was taken on a pilgrimage to the Holy Land but didn’t get further than Spain where the nobleman carrying it was killed in a battle against the Moors. There is a monument in Teba – might that be a place you have been? I didn’t know this, I had to look it up!
LikeLike
Ah yes, now I remember the story. Yes, I went to Teba and now that you remind me, it comes back to me! 🙂
LikeLiked by 1 person
Bannockburn does look disappointing. Kind of like my experience in Battle (site of the Battle of Hastings) which was also basically just a field – all the information was in the small museum, and the battlefield was just a field with some sheep in it. Actually, I think that was also supposed to have a good cafe, and it looked so disappointing we didn’t even get anything! I’m pretty sure Battle is run by English Heritage, so it can’t be the same people running Bannockburn, but definitely a similar experience!
LikeLike
I think Bannockburn is one you love or hate: positive reviews from people with kids, less positive views from people like us who just want to learn about the battle in a straightforward manner.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Not the perfect last day, Anabel, but Dundee sounds worth a visit. 🙂 🙂
LikeLike
It certainly is! I was surprised how much there was to do.
LikeLike
Anabel – Love the women walk – what an inspiration 😉 – Cheers – Susan
LikeLike
It’s a brilliant idea, isn’t it?
LikeLiked by 1 person
What a day! But you made the best of it. I used to play Lemmings a lot back in the day, it was such a fun game and made you use your brain to solve puzzles. Sadly I often killed a lot of them as they fell off a cliff or something 🙂
LikeLike
First person to say they have played it! I had never heard of it. Anyway, these little lemmings looked happy enough and in no danger from people forcing them off cliffs 😉
LikeLiked by 1 person
Sometimes things work out exactly as they should, don’t they? I’m sorry for the flat tire, but so glad that it meant you got extra time in Dundee. Especially since your original plans for the day wouldn’t have resulted in such an interesting walk!
LikeLike
All’s well that ends well!
LikeLike
I have always believed that everything happens for a reason even the annoying like a flat tyre. Something positive to remember your expensive day!
LikeLike
Yes, it all worked out well in the end. Any more time at Bannockburn would have been a waste.
LikeLike
Enjoyed the tour. Dundee has a sizable input in the games market with a worldwide audience and loads of awards collected over the years. Probably the Outlander effect for tourist places now, even in the off season.
LikeLike
The Outlander effect is great for bringing in tourist revenue so I suppose I shouldn’t complain!
LikeLike
Hi, Anabel – It’s amazing how the unplanned portions of our travel can often be the most interesting. I’m glad that you enjoyed your trip overall. Your photos tell so many stories!
LikeLike
It is indeed! In this case, all worked out well.
LikeLike
What a shame the historic value of the Tree of Liberty wasn’t recognised before they decided to chop it down, although if there are lots of them I suppose it wasn’t thought to be important. Mary must have been a wonderful woman. I see she died aged 50. Imagine what she would have achieved had she lived to a ripe old age.
LikeLike
I know, she was so ahead of her time too, as were the others.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Shame about your tyre, but it looks like you turned inconvenience into a thoroughly enjoyable wee side trip. Lovely to learn about fabulous strong women I was unaware of.
LikeLike
It all worked out for the best (apart from the expensive tyre of course!)
LikeLiked by 1 person
I am so relate. My poor car seems to attract nails in its tyres. I’ve never had so many repairs and replacements as in the last couple of years. I blame Auckland’s building boom 🤨
LikeLike
Oh dear! I hope it isn’t becoming a habit with us. I had to take my car in too because one tyre kept losing pressure. Turned out it was the valve which could only be replaced by a Renault dealer. A real pain!
LikeLiked by 1 person
☹️ Auckland is having a massive building boom, and the guy at the garage did say (rather tongue in cheek) that it was doing his business no end of good. Hopefully your car troubles were isolated and over.
LikeLike
I hope so!
LikeLiked by 1 person
I like the look of the George Orwell Pub. You always find the coolest places to photograph! I finally got round to watching the film Suffragette recently. I will definitely remember to always use my vote from now on. It was a very inspiring film. X
LikeLiked by 1 person
I would probably have walked past a few years ago without noticing! Having the blog has made me much more observant. I thought Suffragette was a good film. It showed the horror and violence of what happened in a way that was menacing but not graphic.
LikeLiked by 2 people
Great to see so much women’s history on display. I love that tiny bandstand!
LikeLike
Isn’t it cute! Dundee seems to have had many remarkable women over the years.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Hi Anabel – these things happen don’t they … but you gave us some extra info on Dundee and on women in particular … the Tree of Liberty seems to have quite a lot of history behind it – so worth knowing about. Bannockburn sounds remarkably unexciting … sad – perhaps it’ll get sorted out sometime, or perhaps best avoided with the plague of coaches en route – who knows … but obviously one to avoid. Glad you got home safely and that tyre was fixed – cheers Hilary
LikeLike
It all turned out for the best, Hilary. Our extra walk in Dundee was much more interesting than Bannockburn.
LikeLike
I have been nothing but underwhelmed by visits to Bannockburn. Maybe next time they turn their attention to improvements they will really reinvigorate it and make it much more engaging for visitors. I am glad your flat tire was a) replaced quickly and b) led you to explore some nearby history. We had a flat tire while driving the already terrifying road of the Amalfi Coast. That was the single worst driving experience of my life. My nerves were utterly shredded.
LikeLike
Aargh, that sounds awful! I fear this might be the reinvigorated Bannockburn but I’ll never find out now as I don’t intend to go back 😟.
LikeLiked by 1 person
That’s not so good about Bannockburn. I remember being there before the new centre was there and being distinctly underwhelmed.
I think I know that park in Dundee. If it’s the same one, there’s a graffiti wall nearby too.
LikeLike
I didn’t notice the graffiti wall. I don’t think I would have liked the Bannockburn “experience”. Too much interactive stuff. I just want to read the info quietly.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Me too. I was at the House for an Art Lover earlier and they had an audio guide when I would rather read stuff. I ended up just wandering and it was fine.
LikeLike
Some audio guides are good, but usually I find them a bit frustrating.
LikeLiked by 1 person
There was a good programme on TV recently about Bannockburn, I think it was Neil Oliver and he was trying to identify the exact battle site.
If you ever go to Agincourt in France there is a really good museum there.
Bad news about the tyre, last year I hit a pothole and wrecked a tyre, shame was that it was the newest one on the car!
LikeLike
Typical! Our tyre was about due for replacement anyway, so we weren’t too bothered. I didn’t see the Bannockburn programme: if it was Neil Oliver I probably knowingly avoided it. Not by any means my favourite presenter!
LikeLiked by 1 person
He seems ok to me, could do with a haircut, why don’t you like him? Reveal and I’ll tell you the presenter I like the least!
LikeLike
Yes, the hair and the backward glances to camera are irritating. I also find him quite boring tbh! And he’s quite sneery and about independence which I don’t like. It’s possible to disagree without nastiness.
LikeLike
I just googled him, I had no understanding of his political and nationalist opinions.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Sometimes a bad event can still lead to something good, can’t it?
LikeLike
It can! The day was probably more enjoyable than the one we had planned.
LikeLiked by 1 person
So it can happen! 🙂
LikeLiked by 1 person
That’s a shame about the battlefield trip. But so nice you found interesting things in Dundee. I especially enjoy the women’s history tips!
LikeLike
It all worked out in the end! I love finding snippets of women’s history wherever I go.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Maybe the George Orwell pub opened its doors in 1984!
Looking forward to your next adventure.
Neil
LikeLike
It certainly looks as though that might have been the last time it was painted!
LikeLiked by 1 person
I do love your positive approach to your visit to Bannockburn when things didn’t turn out exactly as they should, and I’m glad that Dundee made up for it. Loved the critturs climbing the plinth and glad you were able to find out what they were. I was in Belfast last weekend for the Noireland Crime Book Festival where Scotland’s Stuart MacBride was a great hit swapping Scots words with N.I. writer Andrian McKinty for N.Irish words. I was pleased that I knew most of them, thanks to your former posts.
LikeLike
That’s good, I’m glad my Scottish Words have been of use! I heard Stuart McBride once at Aye Write (Glasgow book festivals) – not that I have read any of his books. I was a volunteer for a couple of years, checking tickets and taking the mic round for questions, so I got to hear an interesting variety of speakers. Still never been to Belfast … great title for their festival!
LikeLiked by 1 person
Great post, Anabel: I have added Dundee to my (evergrowing!) bucket list of places to visit. Mary Lily Walker sounds like an incredible, pioneering woman: I’ve just found the following, very interesting article about her: https://www.historyscotland.com/articles/features/the-story-of-pioneering-dundee-reformer-mary-lily-walker
LikeLike
Thanks for that! I’m glad someone has written a book about her.
LikeLiked by 1 person
The Dundee trip seems to have been very worthwhile and enjoyable, but I am very puzzled about Bannockburn. I would have thought that it would have been the highlight of a journey. Last time I was there was many moons ago and that story began in Maryhill – Craigmont Street :o)
LikeLike
If you want to learn about the Battle of Bannockburn it’s not the place to go! Not unless you like the whizz-bang approach to history. I’m an old fogey who likes my history straight.
LikeLiked by 2 people
That’s a great shame. I am not one for bells and whistles and I suspect I am like that TV detective “We need the facts, ma ‘m, just the facts.”
LikeLike
I can see the appeal of bells and whistles for the video game generation, and I’m all for getting people interested in history any way possible, but it’s not for me. It’s a shame that it was ALL bells and whistles and no alternative for those who just want the straightforward facts.
LikeLike
I suppose Bannockburn get a lot of coach trips. But I’ll give it a miss if I’m up that way. Love the gems you found in Dundee, though. Hope your tyre is behaving itself now.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Yes, it’s probably best visited in a group or with kids. Lots of interactive stuff and games which I would probably have squirmed at anyway. The car is fine now, thanks.
LikeLiked by 1 person